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Updated: Thu 10:59 PM, Jul 12, 2012

Mesa County fire chiefs fight fires while fighting lower budgets, and they're asking for the public’s help to do it.

Thursday, multiple fire departments visited the Grand Junction Farmers Market to ask the community to fill out a two-page survey on their opinion of their department’s services.

"The survey is part of a larger Mesa County fire services study that all of the fire departments in Mesa County are involved in," said Ken Watkins, the fire chief for the City of Grand Junction.

That study is conducted by an independent consultant, who will look at how department partnerships can make services in the valley more efficient.

"We're trying not to duplicate services. We're trying to find out where we are deficient in services so that we can address those," said Frank Cavaliere, the fire chief for the Lower Valley Fire Department.

They hope to discover ways to work together.

"It could be as simple as more joint training together, joint purchasing, where if we're going to buy hose, we all buy hose together so we save some cost that way," said Watkins.

For smaller departments like Palisade and Lower Valley that depend on volunteers, partnerships could supplement some personnel.

"It would also help out, like I said, with staffing. If we're short, we will have mutual aid or automatic aid responses with other agencies," said Cavaliere.

All options will be considered in the study.

"All the way up to possibly the consolidation of departments into what would be a fire authority, which has happened quite a bit across the state of Colorado," Watkins said.

That fire authority would include stations across the Grand Valley.

"When you're an individual, it will cost you more. You have duplicated services. You have duplicated lawyers and accountants and all your fees for special districts," said Palisade Fire Chief Richard Rupp.

So they're hoping to cut costs in a tough economy.

"Property taxes are declining, so that's going to be less revenue for all of the fire districts in the area that are mill levy supported," Rupp said.

The fire chiefs say they want to incorporate good ideas from the public.

"This is a community project that we're doing so we want to have input from both us out to the community but the community giving back to us," said Cavaliere.

You can fill out the survey online at http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MesaCounty

The Mesa County Fire chief's association will hold three public meetings on the study on the following days:

Tuesday, July 24, 2012; 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.
Palisade Community Center
120 W. 8th Street, downstairs

Tuesday, August 21, 2012; 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.
Clifton Fire Station
3254 F Road

Tuesday, September 18, 2012; 7 p.m. to 9 p.m.
Grand Junction City Hall Auditorium
250 N. 5th Street


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  • by Duh on Jul 13, 2012 at 11:08 AM
    As you read down these posts, try to figure out which ones (and count them) were written by firemen and which were written by civilians. There are two distinct groups of firemen: volunteers and union slugs. Volunteer firemen deserve nothing but praise. The union guys are scum. Why the difference? Volunteers have jobs, lives and families away from hanging around waiting for an excuse to drive around in a big truck with a big siren. The union guys sit around in their laziboys thinking about ways of getting more of your tax money or working on their own pet projects. (From waxing their car to working on their side business, the large amount of slack time in the "hero" business gives them lots of chance to do what they want on the taxpayer's dime.) The last time a GJ Fire Chief got into PR mode (that was the coke head) we replaced a cost effective efficient and good private ambulance system with a unionized government bureaucracy. This whole thread is another one of those PR campaigns. Let's support the volunteers and entice the unions to leave.
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      by William on Jul 13, 2012 at 01:57 PM in reply to Duh
      I agree with you, like you, I have a miserable life, a dead end job that pays squat and I am jealous of those that do something and are compensated accordingly for it. Like you, I have always "dreamed" and wanted a better job, but have put forth no effort to secure one. Like you, I am spoon fed talking points from fox news and all I can do is hate and spew. When will opportunity come knocking at our doors? When will we drink from the golden cup? Why has life passed us by? Will anyone read our frappy opinions on some low budget website that 12 people read? When can we move from our mothers basement and why do we have to share our computers with her? Life suuuux, woe is us.
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      by GJFD on Jul 13, 2012 at 02:03 PM in reply to Duh
      Both you morons talk tough, but you would be crying like little girls if your mothers house was on fire and there was a risk of loosing your comic book and video game collection. You both should step up to the plate and change the lives you live that you hate so much. The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence you know.
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        by William on Jul 13, 2012 at 04:42 PM in reply to GJFD
        GJFD, I was being sarcastic. Perhaps you should learn to comprehend the English language. They must not be hiring the smartest ones there.
  • by Dave on Jul 13, 2012 at 08:40 AM
    Some jobs are inherently dangerous, much more dangerous than your door greeter, stock clerk, server, pencil pusher, bean counter, admin puke, etc. when you work a job that you very well may die at or not come home from, you should be highly compensated. Most folks have mundane, safe, soft jobs. Some folks have highly hazardous jobs, firefighters, electric lineman, soldiers, oil fieild goobers, etc. with the risk comes compensation. Most folks ate just cry babies about folks who make more money for working a high hazard job. They do not have the stones to do such jobs, but they sure can cry a river about the pay scale of highly hazardous jobs. So, itbasicallyboils down to petty jealousy and the inability to step up to the plate and do something other than their lame, mundane job.
  • by Unbelievable on Jul 13, 2012 at 07:05 AM
    Localfirefighter and Heather, thank you for the only pragmatic comments on this entire thread. You can't fix ignorance so don't waste your time on these people...they'll get what they deserve when education has been privatized, police are a thing of the past, and firefighters no longer exist. I can't wait to read their comments then. And, local firefighter, thank you for your service; there are still people who recognize the value in what your do.
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      by Anonymous on Jul 13, 2012 at 08:31 AM in reply to Unbelievable
      How do you not get this? People are really upset at the government wasting our tax dollars that we worked so hard for. We must now work 7 months out of the year to pay for 'services'. Now granted, firefighters are necessary, and at the low end of the waste. But they are part of the machine. The many stories of them watching a house burn or failing to rescue a person because an additional protection fee was not paid, don't help their image.
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        by Anonymous on Jul 13, 2012 at 05:04 PM in reply to
        I am not sure anyone here is blasting what firefighters do. Too many sensitive types that maybe lounge too much on the lazyboys decided to turn that into an issue. There is such a thing as being conservative with tax dollars. And GJFD isn't. Never have been, never will. Whatever you do, if you combine fire depts., don't let GJFD take over. The other depts and their citizens will get screwed.
  • by Could you do it? on Jul 13, 2012 at 07:03 AM
    If you think Firefighters and Forest Fire Fighters have it so easy, why not put a application in? Just think you could quit your Walmart job or even move out of your Mothers basement! These people work for every dime they get.
  • by LocalFirefighter on Jul 13, 2012 at 02:57 AM
    For all of you dimwits out there, we pay for everything in the fire service. WE pay for our dinner, WE pay for food, drinks, WE pay for new tv's and couched, its all out of pocket. The only thing the Department pays for is Needs(New rigs, hoses, tools, lights, and repairs) Volunteer departments are great but some should be combined such as Central Orchard Mesa Fire Department who averages maybe 5 calls a month and East Orchard Mesa Fire Department who averages zero. There is no need for there to be two fire stations/departments in orchard mesa. GJ & Cifton or GJ & Lower valley could easily combine stations. We are a big fire authority, working under Mesa County & Mesa County Fire Chiefs. GJFD is a very hard working department and currently their money goes towards new equipment keeping YOU and your friends/family safe. So keep your mouth shut when you dont know what your getting into
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      by Anonymous on Jul 13, 2012 at 08:43 AM in reply to LocalFirefighter
      Don't you have to sign a morality clause to be a 'public servant'? You words are harsh. Do you verbally berate all the dimwits when you respond to a call?
  • by james on Jul 13, 2012 at 12:57 AM
    Can someone please step up an build a hospital in or around the Clifton,whitewater palisaide area Puhlz
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      by LocalFirefighter on Jul 13, 2012 at 02:59 AM in reply to james
      No reason. St. Marys is the best there is right now. Palisade has a medical clinic and so does clifton. If someone needs a hospital we go pick em up and transport. If you want a hospital then you be the one to step-up big boy.
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      by Anonymous on Jul 13, 2012 at 06:53 AM in reply to james
      james is off his meds again, Clifton Animal Hospital can take care of your illness.
  • by Heather Location: Clifton on Jul 12, 2012 at 10:38 PM
    So would you prefer they sat on a pile of bricks waiting for some ignorant moron like yourself to call for assistance because you passed out drunk with a lit cigg? I don't know about GJFD, but I do know that the volunteer departments provide their own furniture and entertainment out of pocket. Im sure you're sitting on your couch collecting food stamps so what are you so jealous about anyways? My guess is you failed the First Responders class and you're all bent out of shape. I am proud of the fire departments we have in the valley and all of the men and women who work and volunteer their time away from families to assist us, the public. I also appreciate they are trying to include us in ways to better serve us and help cut costs.
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      by KL on Jul 16, 2012 at 07:42 PM in reply to Heather
      THANK YOU Heather! Couldn't agree more : )
  • by Kg on Jul 12, 2012 at 10:37 PM
    Speaking of gov wasting our money...I hope our leaders have funded all this seemingly unaffordable spending in a lawful manner. The third city in Cali to go bankrupt in the last two weeks, San Bernardino, is undergoing criminal investigations.
  • by Anonymous on Jul 12, 2012 at 10:06 PM
    Wow, what a pitch for the "professional unionized hero". Short answer, we can't afford you. Go back to California or New York.
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      by wozzer on Jul 12, 2012 at 10:17 PM in reply to
      you can't afford the fire department, wow good luck with that genius...hope you never need them
  • by common sense on Jul 12, 2012 at 09:14 PM
    I think it's a great idea to combine the area departments into one big fire "authority". Right now, you have too many small volunteer departments, many of which do not train their volunteers adequately (or at all). This creates a bunch of weekend warriors looking for glory who are going to end up getting killed because they don't know how dangerous fighting fires really is. One would think that a minimum standard for training would be required, but it simply isn't true in small, volunteer departments. We have to do something to protect our homes and to protect the firefighters who risk their lives. Let's find a way to make sure they have the training and experience required to do the work.
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